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07/17/2014 01:30 PM Senate LEGISLATIVE BUDGET & AUDIT

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01:53:57 PM Start
01:54:10 PM Approval of Minutes
01:55:31 PM Executive Session
02:44:06 PM Other Committee Business
02:48:33 PM Audit Requests
02:59:22 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Other Committee Business:
-Contracts
-Special Audit Requests: Citizens Advisory
Commission on Federal Lands - Rep. Keller;
State of Alaska Food Purchasing - Rep. Tarr
**Streamed live on AKL.TV**
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             LEGISLATIVE BUDGET AND AUDIT COMMITTEE                                                                           
                         July 17, 2014                                                                                          
                           1:53 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna Fairclough, Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Click Bishop (via teleconference)                                                                                       
Senator Cathy Giessel                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Hawker, Vice Chair (via teleconference)                                                                     
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Kevin Meyer                                                                                                             
Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy (alternate)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Alan Austerman                                                                                                   
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Scott Kawasaki (alternate)                                                                                       
Representative Bill Stoltze (alternate)                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
APPROVAL OF MINUTES                                                                                                             
EXECUTIVE SESSION                                                                                                               
OTHER COMMITTEE BUSINESS                                                                                                        
AUDIT REQUESTS                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LAURA PIERRE, Staff                                                                                                             
Senator Anna Fairclough                                                                                                         
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified during discussion of the contract                                                              
proposal for the consultants.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN CURTIS                                                                                                                  
Legislative Auditor                                                                                                             
Division of Legislative Audit                                                                                                   
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided information on the audit requests.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GERAN TARR                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented a  request for  an audit  of the                                                             
State of Alaska food purchasing program.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WES KELLER                                                                                                       
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Presented a  request for  an audit  of the                                                             
Citizens' Advisory Commission on Federal Areas.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  ANNA FAIRCLOUGH  called the  Legislative Budget  and Audit                                                             
Committee meeting  to order  at 1:53  p.m.   Senators Fairclough,                                                               
Giessel,  and Bishop  (via  teleconference), and  Representatives                                                               
Hawker (via  teleconference), Olson,  and Josephson  were present                                                               
at the call to order.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:54:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Approval of Minutes                                                                                                            
                      Approval of Minutes                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:54:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH  announced that  the  first  order of  business                                                               
would be the approval of the minutes.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  made a  motion to approve  the minutes  of March                                                               
28,  2014.   There  being  no  objection,  the minutes  from  the                                                               
meeting of March 28, 2014 were approved.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Executive Session                                                                                                              
                       Executive Session                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:55:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH announced  that the  committee would  move into                                                               
executive session to discuss confidential committee contracts.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL  made a motion  to move to executive  session for                                                               
the purpose of discussing  confidential committee contracts under                                                               
Uniform Rule  22(b)(1) and 22(b)(3).   There being  no objection,                                                               
the committee went into executive session at 1:56 p.m.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:43:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH brought  the committee back to  order.  Senators                                                               
Fairclough,  Bishop   (via  teleconference),  and   Giessel,  and                                                               
Representatives   Hawker   (via   teleconference),   Olson,   and                                                               
Josephson were present at the call back to order.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^Other Committee Business                                                                                                       
                    Other Committee Business                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   FAIRCLOUGH  explained   that  the   committee  had   been                                                               
discussing  the  pre-FEED  stage  of  the  proposed  natural  gas                                                               
pipeline, and that  the legislature had expressed  an interest in                                                               
involvement   in  this   discussion.     She  relayed   that  the                                                               
administration  had  held  discussions  regarding  municipal  tax                                                               
issues  with mayors,  royalty issues,  and marketing  aspects for                                                               
LNG.      She  declared   that,   as   the  legislators   desired                                                               
representation   in  these   discussions,   they  had   requested                                                               
expansion  to  the  scope  of  work  for  representation  by  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  PIERRE,  Staff,  Senator  Anna  Fairclough,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,   testified  that   she   had   asked  the   current                                                               
consultants for  a proposal  to expand the  scope of  work beyond                                                               
their current  contract and for  a proposed monthly  retainer fee                                                               
for the committee to consider versus the current daily rate.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:45:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  proposed to expand  the consultant  contract by                                                               
$100,000.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL moved  to  amend the  contract  amount of  Janak                                                               
Mayer  from  $250,000  to  an   amount  not  to  exceed  $350,000                                                               
excluding  expenses.    There  being  no  objection,  it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL moved  to  amend the  contract  amount of  Nikos                                                               
Tsafos  from  $250,000  to  an  amount  not  to  exceed  $350,000                                                               
excluding  expenses.    There  being  no  objection,  it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH  pointed out that  the contracts  should include                                                               
expenses, and not exclude expenses.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL withdrew her two motions for the contracts.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL moved  to  amend the  contract  amount of  Janak                                                               
Mayer  from  $250,000  to  an   amount  not  to  exceed  $350,000                                                               
including expenses.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:47:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  expressed his concern to  the knowledge                                                               
of these  expert consultants for  payment in  lieu of taxes.   He                                                               
asked for an additional expert.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no further  objection  to  the  motion, it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:48:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL moved  to  amend the  contract  amount of  Nikos                                                               
Tsafos  from  $250,000  to  an  amount  not  to  exceed  $350,000                                                               
including  expenses.    There  being  no  objection,  it  was  so                                                               
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
^Audit Requests                                                                                                                 
                         Audit Requests                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:48:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH announced that the  next order of business would                                                               
be regarding  the performance review  audit of the  Department of                                                               
Corrections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:48:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRISTIN  CURTIS,  Legislative  Auditor, Division  of  Legislative                                                               
Audit,  Alaska State  Legislature, requested  an increase  to the                                                               
performance  review contract  of  the  Department of  Corrections                                                               
(DOC) for  $300,000 not to  exceed $325,000.  She  explained that                                                               
this would  expand the  current performance  review to  include a                                                               
focused review  of health  care service  delivery and  quality of                                                               
clinical care.  This review would  assess the degree to which DOC                                                               
policies  and   procedures  were  in  line   with  industry  best                                                               
practices,  and,  to  the  extent  possible,  recommend  specific                                                               
practices and policies that would improve DOC performance.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked if  the performance  reviews were                                                               
going to  be farmed out,  whereas other audits,  specifically the                                                               
Knik  Arm Bridge  and Toll  Authority (KABATA)  audit, were  done                                                               
internally.  He asked which audits would be farmed out.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CURTIS  explained  that  the  law  stated  that  performance                                                               
reviews  were  to  be  led  by experts  and  facilitated  by  the                                                               
Division  of  Legislative  Audit  in  securing  the  experts  and                                                               
helping draft the  scope of the work.   She said that  it was not                                                               
routine to hire experts for audits.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to authorize  an increase to the Department                                                               
of Corrections  performance review contract amount  from $300,000                                                               
to an amount  not to exceed $325,000.  There  being no objection,                                                               
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:51:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH announced that the  next order of business would                                                               
be for special audit requests.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER asked that the  request be expedited as his                                                               
teleconference connection would soon be terminated.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:51:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GERAN TARR,  Alaska State  Legislature, requested                                                               
an audit of the Alaska  Grown purchasing preference program.  She                                                               
directed attention  to a recent  review for  economic opportunity                                                               
and food security, as Alaskans  annually spend about $2.5 billion                                                               
on food,  while only 5  percent of  the food was  grown in-state.                                                               
She declared  that there was only  a three to five  day supply of                                                               
food in  grocery stores.   She questioned whether  the purchasing                                                               
preference program  was operating  as statutorily intended.   She                                                               
reported  that  a  state  agency   making  food  purchases  could                                                               
purchase Alaska Grown products as  long as the purchase price was                                                               
within 7 percent  of the out of  state food price.   She asked if                                                               
that  was  indeed happening,  and  whether  it was  necessary  to                                                               
address any  barriers.   She offered her  belief that  a stronger                                                               
food system  would increase  food security.   She noted  that, as                                                               
more food was grown in-state, there was more that we could do.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:53:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GIESSEL moved to authorize  an audit request of the State                                                               
Department Compliance with the Alaska Grown purchasing program.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER objected,  and  asked  if the  legislative                                                               
auditor had participated in the  development of the scope of this                                                               
audit request.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FAIRCLOUGH replied that she had participated.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER withdrew his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection, it was so ordered.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:54:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  asked for the reasons  to question this                                                               
compliance.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR explained that she  had been working with the                                                               
Alaska  Food  Policy Council,  and  that  its strategic  planning                                                               
sessions for strengthening food systems  had identified this as a                                                               
problem area due to lack of enforcement.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:56:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WES  KELLER, Alaska  State Legislature,  said that                                                               
he  embraced  the  concept  that   boards  and  commissions  were                                                               
transparent.  He expressed his  comfort with this being a routine                                                               
audit request,  declaring that it was  a benefit to the  state to                                                               
review the  way money was  being spent on the  Citizens' Advisory                                                               
Commission on Federal Areas.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FAIRCLOUGH asked  if he  had worked  with the  legislative                                                               
auditor in the development of the scope of this audit request.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER replied that he  had sent a memo requesting                                                               
the audit,  but had not  pursued it further; instead  waiting for                                                               
the opportunity to verbally request it.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:57:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CURTIS said  that there was not a problem  with accepting the                                                               
audit  request, and  that she  would approach  it using  standard                                                               
sunset criteria.   She  explained that  the request  verbiage was                                                               
less important for  a commission, as there was  a mandate already                                                               
established in statute.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:58:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GIESSEL  moved to  authorize  an  audit request  of  the                                                               
Citizens' Advisory Commission  on Federal Areas.   There being no                                                               
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:59:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  business  before  the  committee,  the                                                               
Legislative Budget  and Audit Committee meeting  was adjourned at                                                               
2:59 p.m.                                                                                                                       

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
LB&A Agenda 7.17.14.pdf JBUD 7/17/2014 1:30:00 PM
DOC contract increase request memo 9July14.pdf JBUD 7/17/2014 1:30:00 PM
Keller - CACFA Audit Request.pdf JBUD 7/17/2014 1:30:00 PM
Tarr - Food Purchasing Audit Request.pdf JBUD 7/17/2014 1:30:00 PM